Keeping an i7-13700k cool

I've read that this CPU runs really hot. Will an 240 AIO comfortably cool it or should I be looking at an 360 AIO?

 

Case: Corsair 5000D

MB: Gigabyte Aorus Elite X AX

 

Thank you

to BC, Uubergoober!

I would really like to apologize for the late reply, but anyway:

There is an article on the Best Corsair Cooler For Intel Core i7-13700K CPU.

However, maybe some other more knowledgeable members on internal hardware and system building and upgrading will chime in with their observations on which Corsair AIO Liquid Cooler will comfortably cool your:

Intel® Core™ i7-13700K Processor and fit your Corsair 5000D Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX PC Case - Black and GIGA-BYTE Z790 AORUS ELITE X AX Motherboard.

However, in the meantime, it would be helpful if you please could post a complete list of all your internal hardware components because there are several different factors to consider when choosing which AIO Liquid Cooler to buy.

Good luck!

Edited by midimusicman79, 19 June 2024 - 08:47 PM.

Sure thing. Thank you for the reply. I've decided to instead go with a 14th gen cpu for future proofing purposes. I tend to use my rigs for 6-7 years.

 

 

CPU - i7-14700k

 

Cooler - I'm looking at the NZXT and Lian Li products

 

MB - Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELite X AX

 

RAM - G.Skill Trident Z5 32GB 7200 CL34

 

Storage - Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB x 2

 

Case - Corsair 5000D Air Flow

 

PS - Corsair RM850x

 

GPU - undecided. Haven't read good things on the GTX 4070 Ti's (Waiting out any possible deals on an 4080 Super)

What have you heard about the rtx 4070s?

You are welcome, Uubergoober!

 

You have made a reasonable decision about switching to a 14th-generation CPU because it is at least one year newer and more modern than a 13th-generation CPU.

 

You will also benefit from switching to an Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 Super GPU because it is at least one year newer and more modern than an Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GPU.

 

You are even rational because you tend to use your rigs for 6-7 years, and I also tend to do that and keep several of my three desktop-only Windows computers for 10 years if possible.

 

FWIW, an article on the Best Corsair Cooler For Intel Core I7-14700K CPU recommends the same Corsair AIO Liquid Coolers for your Intel® Core™ i7-14700K Processor.

 

However, as I indicated in Post #2, my knowledge about internal hardware and system building and upgrading is limited, but I noticed that cryptodan replied with a counter-question.

 

As you can see in his signature, he has a Master's in Computers. He is also a Digital Forensics Expert with comprehensive knowledge and experience of computers and system building and upgrading.

 

As such, he is far more capable of helping you further, and other members have much more knowledge and experience than I do on what internal hardware components you should choose for a good desktop computer build.

 

There is an article on Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Review: A Costly 70-Class GPU and Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 Super review: Slightly faster than the 4080, but $200 cheaper.

 

Good luck!

What have you heard about the rtx 4070s?

I've been researching GPU's for months, and I haven't come across one glowing review of the 4070 series. All of them had the 4070, Ti, and Ti Super, in the lower middle of the pack for 4k gaming, value vs. performance. Often times was out performed by the 3080.

 

The internet can be good and bad. Lots of good information, but also lots of bad information with flawed data, but when you do your research, you start to see trends. I think I will be watching for 4080 Ti Super discounts towards the end of the year, but that's wishful thinking.

Unfortunately, NEITHER cryptodan NOR any other members would like to reply and help you further, even though several more knowledgeable members on internal (and external) hardware and system building and upgrading usually reply to many users in this forum.
 
I do NOT understand other members' rationale for NOT being willing to help you. However, I will try to help you further, and according to your Intel® Core i7-14700K Processor's Memory Specifications, the maximum Memory Speed is Up to DDR5 5600 MT/s.
 
As such, your likely F5-7200J3445G16GX2-TZ5RS G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-7200 CL34-45-45-115 1.40V 32GB (2x16GB) Intel XMP Memory could be too fast for your CPU, but although you might be able to adjust down the Memory Speed in your UEFI, you could be wasting money.
 
So, maybe you should switch to another memory module kit with a Memory Speed of DDR5 5600 MT/s to save money because I think you have a lot of experience building several desktop computers. But I do NOT believe you are overclocking your CPU and memory.
 
However, FWIW, you could try to visit PCPartPicker: Pick parts, Build your PC, Compare, and share to see if there are any compatibility issues with your internal hardware components, but it would be better if someone else with more hardware experience and knowledge would reply.
 
Good luck!

Edited by midimusicman79, 21 June 2024 - 01:58 PM.

midimusicman,

Some of us have lives outside the forums. I work from 830 to 430 and have a 4 hour commute time daily from Washington DC to Baltimore.

So I take offense to you accusing me of being unhelpful to others.

Thank you, cryptodan!

Okay, I would really like to apologize for that wrongful statement, but with all due respect, I did NOT aim it directly at you, but to other members in general.

However, I seem to have forgotten about other members' work and spare time, respectively, so thanks for the reminder.

Personal opinion - I'd go for the largest one you can fit in your case, a 360mm one.  The cost difference between a 240mm and 360mm cooler is not a lot relative to the cost of the computer, and changing it at a later date will cost you more in the end and be a hassle.  This shows the sort of temperatures achieved with a 14700K, tested with a large 140mm air cooler, and a giant Noctua D15 air cooler (the D15, from what I've seen generally performs at a similar level to a lot of the 240mm AIO's) - https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/24.html   As you can see, even at stock settings, it gets hot when under full load.

 

The reason I'd suggest the 360mm is because yes a 240mm cooler will work (and the CPU itself will auto throttle to keep itself below 100 degrees celsius by default), but the extra capacity of the larger system should give it more headroom and allow it to operate with the fans and pump at a lower speed, helping to keep noise down. 

 

Your usage comes into it as well.  Gaming doesn't usually fully load the CPU (but often does fully load the GPU), so you shouldn't have a problem with it getting super hot during gaming, with a reasonable cooler.  If you do say, lots of video encoding or something, that will put continuous, sustained loads on the CPU.

Thank you very much, jonuk76!

Something to consider if using the 5000D Airfow case:

A 360mm is good and will easily fit and clear the motherboard and it's components, however it can be placed in the front, side and top inside the case. Where it is placed should be a serious consideration. Different temps for both the graphic card and CPU will be seen as to where it is placed.

5000D Airflow only is equipped with two 120mm fans, one intake in the front and one exhaust in the rear (back) of the case. Thus it is a question that you should obtain more case cooling fans, which vendor (Corsair for example) and where these should be placed.

Spec's sheet for this case does have recommended AIO coolers listed, all Corsair of course, as a form of buying guide.  H55, H60, H75, H80i, H90, H100i, H105, H110i, H115i, H150i are listed. Get the manual too if not already done and thoroughly read, as you will need it for assembly and making build decisions. See here for case spec's: https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/p/pc-cases/cc-9011210-ww/5000d-airflow-tempered-glass-mid-tower-atx-pc-case-black-cc-9011210-ww#tab-techspecs

Most often these days both the case fans and the AIOs have software to download and install to control fan speeds and temps and of course the pump speed, so maybe getting all of this  from the same vendor may reduce the software bloat and unify all the controls in one package.

RTX 4070s reviews are always interesting as are any other reviews. And often skewed or slanted or incorrectly advertised or falsely rated.

This is the best comparison to be found on the internet for different graphic cards and it show the RTX 4070 Super out doing the RTX 3080, and the RTX 4070 Ti Super out doing the RTX 3090.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4070-super.c4186

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super.c4187

Note these comparisons are based on rasterization at 1080p, not taking DLSS or Frame Generation into account or factored into the results. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/technologies/dlss/

 

RTX 4080 Super result if  curious is here: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4080-super.c4182

 

So yes the RTX 4080 Super may have a price drop before the arrival of the upcoming RTX 5000 Series that is expected this Fall or early Winter.

And maybe not and if there is a drop in price, I wouldn't expect it to be significant or dramatic.

Nvidia usually holds up the prices and resale values, whereas AMD Radeon usually drop in price as time goes on - some say AMD is overpriced from the onset and then drops down to what it should have initially been for the entry onto the market.

No doubt there will be good (and maybe very good) sales on the RTX 4080 Super after the RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 is released and supplies becomes stable. Just to get rid of them.

Id recommend going with any full tower case to offer the most optimal air flow and biodegradability. You will not be disappointed, and its why I no longer use or recommend mid-tower cases even though those cases claim to offer maximum airflow to cool components. I game a lot of heavy games, and my air-cooled system a Core i7 4790k with an RTX 3060ti never surpasses 60C. the CPU stays at a low 20C to 30C throughout my gaming experience even at 4K across 3 monitors. I dont think I could do it with a mid-tower.

Would I trust a newer Intel / RTX 4080ti in a mid-tower no I wouldn't.

Other considerations, and maybe do some cost cutting at the same time, so allowing those saved and unspent funds to be allotted for the more premium graphic card would be lowering the CPU to an i5 and getting a lower tier case.

Going for a lower tier motherboard would also save some more.

As you haven't stated as to what this system is really intended for and it's usage is, I can't really give much more at the moment.