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The Risk of still using Win7?


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#31 MoxieMomma

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Posted 01 January 2024 - 11:59 AM

You are most welcome.

 

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Posted 01 January 2024 - 12:03 PM

 

Windows 10 is better than Linux IMO

OK, feel free to use it then. I dont want to argue wich is better. I would stick with Win7 for eternity, but that is not an option.

 

No arguments here but with your hardware Windows 10 would run very well.  I felt the same way and kept using for a year after, but I was falling behind in learning Windows 10 and wanted to be up to date as to how things work in 10.  I still use Windows 7 also, one of my work machines is a dual boot Windows 7 and Linux.  I use this machine for testing HDD's and copying customer files from their old computers.  I also freely go online with it but don't do any banking or shopping.  I'm not as paranoid as most but still want to keep things safe for all my personal stuff including my mothers accounts.

 

In hindsight, installing 10 to your computer would have been a very good idea, that way you would have got the free license.

 

Use 7 all you want, I don't bash folks for doing so, I'm just not going to risk all my families finances doing so.  I have options, so I use them.  I have three towers on my desk as it is, and a few tucked in the closet, along with a handful of laptops.   


If I don't reply right away it's because I'm waiting for Windows 10 to Update.

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Posted 01 January 2024 - 12:25 PM

Just on MBAE (Malwarebytes Anti Exploit).

MBAE has for some years now been a different thing than it used to be.

MBAE is now a BETA testing version of the Anti-Exploit module of Malwarebytes Premium.

If you install Malwarebytes it will remove any existing MBAE as part of that install, because anti-exploit is now included as a standard module in Malwarebytes.

Whilst you can still get MBAE it is now a BETA Test, and as such is for advanced users willing to help out with BETA testing. You can find it in the Beta Test section on the Malwarebytes forum.
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/forum/70-beta-testing-program/

Edited by Nukecad, 01 January 2024 - 12:30 PM.

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Posted 01 January 2024 - 01:02 PM

Just on MBAE (Malwarebytes Anti Exploit).

MBAE has for some years now been a different thing than it used to be.

MBAE is now a BETA testing version of the Anti-Exploit module of Malwarebytes Premium.

If you install Malwarebytes it will remove any existing MBAE as part of that install, because anti-exploit is now included as a standard module in Malwarebytes.

Whilst you can still get MBAE it is now a BETA Test, and as such is for advanced users willing to help out with BETA testing. You can find it in the Beta Test section on the Malwarebytes forum.
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/forum/70-beta-testing-program/

Hm, I have Malwarebytes Free version so that dont have this feature I guess.



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Posted 01 January 2024 - 01:22 PM

FYI Malwarebytes free is only an on-demand scanner to deal with malware that has already made it onto your system.

For real-time protection to help *prevent infection*, you need the paid (Premium) version.
Malwarebytes v4 still supports Windows 7.

https://support.malwarebytes.com/hc/en-us/articles/360039021313-Malwarebytes-for-Windows-v4-support-for-Windows-7

Prevention is always preferable to cleanup after the fact.

(I have absolutely no financial interest in MB or its software)

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Posted 01 January 2024 - 02:12 PM

Im usin Avast Free for real time protection for many many years now. Or that work differently? Because I just checking MB site for Premium and it say it is an antivirus program. As I know running two antivirus real time protection can make conflict with eachother. Also I have MB Browser Guard on Firefox.



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Posted 01 January 2024 - 02:13 PM


Just on MBAE (Malwarebytes Anti Exploit).

MBAE has for some years now been a different thing than it used to be.

MBAE is now a BETA testing version of the Anti-Exploit module of Malwarebytes Premium.

If you install Malwarebytes it will remove any existing MBAE as part of that install, because anti-exploit is now included as a standard module in Malwarebytes.

Whilst you can still get MBAE it is now a BETA Test, and as such is for advanced users willing to help out with BETA testing. You can find it in the Beta Test section on the Malwarebytes forum.
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/forum/70-beta-testing-program/

Hm, I have Malwarebytes Free version so that dont have this feature I guess.
On my laptops I have Malwarebytes Free as a scan option, Windows Security/Defender looks after real time ptotection.

I do also have MBAE Beta, but as said it is not something that you really need unless helping out with testing.

(Beta testing can bring problems. Don't get involved with Beta testing unless you are fairly sure that you can sort any unintended problems that may happen).

Edited by Nukecad, 01 January 2024 - 02:25 PM.

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Posted 01 January 2024 - 02:24 PM

Nukecad, well Im usin Avast Free for fulltime protection. No, I dont want to parcipiate in Beta Testing, also Im not enough advanced. :smash:



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Posted 01 January 2024 - 02:24 PM

I also had free MBAE, then Pedro Bustamante gave me 3 Premium licenses, probably due to some merit that I had in all the years that I used MBAE.



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Posted 02 January 2024 - 10:04 AM

Some suggested this:

"Change your Windows account from the default administrator account to a standard user account"

 

Is it really advised? I want full controll of my PC. I always used my PC as Administrator.



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Posted 02 January 2024 - 11:59 AM

The idea there is that if you do your normal work/use as a standard user account then if you get infected the infecting malware can only use your standard permissions and not admin permissions, so it isn't able to do as much damage.

 

If/when you need to do something as admin then you can right-click an app and 'Run as Administrator'. or switch user to a user account with admin permissions to do the task then switch back to a standard account again when finished.

 

So only using a standard account when you don't need to be an admin user is an extra level of security (but many do ignore it and just run as an admin user account all the time).

 

PS. What you should not do is to activate the "hidden" 'Administrator' account (it's disabled/deactivated by default - hidden) and run in that.
That's a special account which has extra permissions (super powers) and should only be activated/used when really necessary and deactivated straight afterwards.
https://www.ionos.com/digitalguide/server/configuration/enable-administrator-account-windows-10/


Edited by Nukecad, 02 January 2024 - 12:01 PM.

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Posted 02 January 2024 - 12:15 PM

The idea there is that if you do your normal work/use as a standard user account then if you get infected the infecting malware can only use your standard permissions and not admin permissions, so it isn't able to do as much damage.

 

If/when you need to do something as admin then you can right-click an app and 'Run as Administrator'. or switch user to a user account with admin permissions to do the task then switch back to a standard account again when finished.

 

So only using a standard account when you don't need to be an admin user is an extra level of security (but many do ignore it and just run as an admin user account all the time).

 

PS. What you should not do is to activate the "hidden" 'Administrator' account (it's disabled/deactivated by default - hidden) and run in that.
That's a special account which has extra permissions (super powers) and should only be activated/used when really necessary and deactivated straight afterwards.
https://www.ionos.com/digitalguide/server/configuration/enable-administrator-account-windows-10/

Thanks, Yeah I know this is for lessen premissions. I just wondered if it realy advised. It just seems tedious to switching back and forth based where and when I need it. Also flooded with message "you dont have the premission" whenever I do things what need admin rights.



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Posted 02 January 2024 - 12:59 PM

All personal computing involves a risk:benefit calculation and a balance between convenience and security.

The balance is skewed when running an obsolete OS, especially online.
A standard user account seems like a small inconvenience under the circumstances.

But, as always, it's up to you, @Erunosta.

Cheers

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Posted 02 January 2024 - 04:35 PM

All personal computing involves a risk:benefit calculation and a balance between convenience and security.

The balance is skewed when running an obsolete OS, especially online.
A standard user account seems like a small inconvenience under the circumstances.

But, as always, it's up to you, @Erunosta.

Cheers

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Hmmm, probably I will try it how comfort to use my PC as standard user. Because at a point when your PC dont provide the comfy place then no reason to use it like that.

For example few days ago I set EMET to maximum security where things screwed after that. Im not enough advanced to finetune it for every program so I set it back to recommended and pray that will be enough.

 

Im using several programs, defense, behavior and as I read somewhere and liked the refence as it is like on battlefield: landmines, trenches, artilleries, traps, machineguns, walls set everywhere hoping that the enemy will stuck on one of theses. :spam:  :flamethrower:

I managed to survive 3 year after EOS without anything damaged or stoled yet. I hope that I can survive for another year. :warrior:



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Posted 03 January 2024 - 08:18 AM

I have some headache with this Sandboxie Plus.

 

When I try to set other stuffs to higher security then somehow those screwed sandboxie plus. It have an error when I first load my Firefox browser, namely "Cannot start sandboxed service DcomLaunch (-4)". The problem with this that I can not copy paste text inside sandboxed Firefox (however I can copy into Firefox from outside) as also I can not move the opened tabs in browser. Also I get message "cannot use object linking and embedding" when I first start Office Excel.

First this issue hapened when I set EMET to Maximum Security from Recommended. Then I rolled that back and it Sandboxie worked again.

Yesterday I set UAC to maximum as also tinkered in AVAST like tried the Hardened mode, but was too annoying so I disabled it. Then in Core Shield File Shield section I set all files to scan from recommended. Now sandboxie plus again have this Error issue, even I reverted back both UAC to recommended as AVAST settings.

I searched the web for such issue troubleshooting, but cant find any useful one yet.

 

My other question regard Sandboxie Plus that my other Protection programs like AVAST can not take action inside as also can not see inside that if example I visit a site what might have malware because it sandboxed? AVAST not once protected me from such. How I know I encountered with a malware or virus what might remain inside Sandboxie? I start to not see the purpose of sandboxie if it even separate the sandboxed stuffs from my protection programs. Then how I get protected from example stealing my account information Im using on an sandboxed environment? The malware dancing inside sandbox where I login somewhere, but my AVAST can not see it while malware just freely take action and run away on web with my stoled info. I just try to use my common sense here. I can be totaly wrong, so some description, insight might be helpful and would be very appreciated.


Edited by Erunosta, 03 January 2024 - 08:23 AM.





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