State capitalism the extreme opposite of socialism.

Most of the west is currently living under state capitalism its socialism for the rich and corporations its almost as bad as socialism/communism.

This why poverty is getting so bad and the rich keep getting richer and richer. Why can't we just have good old capitalism again?

Sigh yeah I know lobbyist AKA money in politics.

 

 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism

 

 

 

Please share your thoughts I'd like to hear them.

Why can't we just have good old capitalism again?

 

Reality.

Golden rule. Those with the 'gold' rule.

And what ever they want, they usually get.

It doesn't make it right.

It's a human trait.

 

The seeking of power over others.

I follow the Golden rule very faithfully. I wish more people did as well.

Good old gov  Newsom has made California into a millionaires hideaway.  No one else can afford to live here.   $1.22 more than any other state in gas taxes PER GALLON.  NO home insurance and no law enforcement.  Taxes on corporations is driving them to other states with lower taxes and the revenue declines even more.  Spending billions on homeless and made no changes in any aspect to cure the problem.

Mjd420nova,

The left like nickau, buddy215, and johnnybeegood would see what's happening in California as a great positive and would want it for the entire United States.

Edited by cryptodan, 24 March 2024 - 03:35 PM.

Nope.

 

Also appalling are those that support fascism, the overthrow of a legal government-insurrection and voter fraud....Like you have supported at this website, Dan.

 

Too many people in the US with the same objectives as yourself.

 

Negative extremism exists in both political parties.

"Why can't we just have good old capitalism again?"

 

Did this really ever exist in human history? Or is this a imaginary illusion of a pretty painted picture?

 

As to why more people are getting poorer - it is because the manufacturing base has shifted from domestically produced products to importing products. People lost their jobs as a result of the imported goods.

Technology has changed over the last few decades - for one example the common bread bag was paper years ago and this meant lumber jacks and lumber companies, processing of the timber in the mills and pulping that into paper, then distribution of the paper and manufacturing of the bags in factories.

But now it is plastic bags for bread, and basically all mechanized and automated without that much human labor involved anymore.

America was once the greatest for producing steel and iron, domestically producing almost all the vehicles sold in America and other sectors of industry - all of these have almost disappeared or greatly shrunk these days.

We have lost jobs with our advancements in tech and automation.

So as a result we have less job demands and more unemployed or to say it better people are still employed but earning less because many of the better paying jobs for the common or average type of people are now gone  such as lumberjacks and iron workers for examples.

Instead they are working at lower paying jobs such as warehousing or at Starbucks.

Edited by 0lds0d, 24 March 2024 - 03:32 PM.

Outsourcing and over regulating killed capitalism in the United States. It's cheaper to produce in China because of their child labor laws or lack thereof.

Distribution of wealth for employed service comparing the worker and the CEO.

Wages haven't been keeping up while the CEOs makes far above what could be considered to just be keeping up.

 

"CEO pay has skyrocketed 1,460% since 1978....."

 

https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2021/

China uses prisoners for forced labor too. Including political prisoners.

China uses the ill gotten gains through theft and outright fraud.  And now they want to buy our land.  Trying to buy up farms.  Trying to create new communities around critical military installations.  Who's the clown that asks  "should illegals be allowed to vote?"  Damn if they aren't trying to give this country away by steeling it from the citizens.  Blocking my opinions from media because the WH doesn't like it violates my second amendment right to free speech.  

Blocking my opinions from media because the WH doesn't like it violates my second amendment right to free speech.

 

lol.

Outsourcing and over regulating killed capitalism in the United States. It's cheaper to produce in China because of their child labor laws or lack thereof.

 

Cheaper labor in other countries, too.

 

China is no longer the biggest exporter to the US.

Mexico is and the Chinese are reported to be building factories in Mexico to avoid the tariff war.

India's exports in pharmaceuticals have been growing. They now market motorcycles in the US.

 

Child and forced labor are only part of the problem.

 

In the US, labor versus management, corporatism, corporate socialism and corruption are factors.

Mjd420nova

Edit your last sentence to reflect the 1st amendment the rest of your comment is 100% factual. China is ignored by the left because the democrats and people that think like them are in bed with the CCP and don't see China as a threat to a capitalistic society and free market enterprise, however, they see the American dream and way of life as an enemy of the state and wants to punish those that don't want to participate in a globalist social experiment called a global utopian society and that see sovereignty and sovereign borders as racist.

Edited by cryptodan, 24 March 2024 - 08:01 PM.

Distribution of wealth for employed service comparing the worker and the CEO.

So?

What do you propose to rectify the wide spread of wages of labor versus the salaries of CEOs?

Legislation?