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#1 Naught McNoone

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Posted 02 December 2023 - 01:35 PM

20 Days in Mariupol is a documentary, jointly produced by The Associated Press and PBS.  It has been released for public viewing by PBS in the United States.  It can also be seen on YouTube.

 

As soon as the attack on Mariupol started, all the foreign press teams left the city, except for the AP team.  They chose to remain behind, and continue to report on the Russian invasion.

 

This documentary is composed of footage taken by The Associated Press news team, that were in Mariupol.  It is narrated by the reporter, who led the team. [1]

 

It is just over 134 minutes long.  Please watch the whole thing.

 

WARNING:  This film contains graphic video, and my not be suitable for younger audiences.

 

PBS Link:  https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/20-days-in-mariupol/

 

YouTube Link:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvAyykRvPBo

 

 

NOTE:  These links work in Canada.  If you are denied access, set your VPN to a US location.

 

 

Here is some background information on the siege of Mariupol.

 

In 2014, after the "Revolution of Dignity", a relatively small group of separatists, backed by the Russian army, attempted to seize the city.

 

The attempt failed.  The result was that there were ongoing skirmishes for eight years, as well as direct interference by the Russians, centred in and around Mariupol.

 

In 2022, Russia dropped all pretenses that the fighting in Eastern Ukraine was a civil war, and launched a full scale invasion of Ukraine.  This included a plan to conduct a complete "Ethnic Cleansing" of Mariupol. [2]

 

If, after viewing this, you still think that a lasting peace can be negotiated with Putin and his government, well then . . .

 

Yours,

 

Naught

 

 

[1] https://apnews.com/article/20-days-mariupol-frontline-pbs-ukraine-0f43c114529bd43d5a9f2ef31000ee83

 

[2] https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-20-2023



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#2 JohnnyBeeGood

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Posted 03 December 2023 - 11:12 AM

I watched the documentary.

 

Before and after watching, my mindset is the same, Putin and his government plus Americans that support him in association with Trump, are enemies of humanity.

'Negotiating in good faith' means nothing to them.

The value of life means nothing to them but their own existence and quest to rule.



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Posted 04 December 2023 - 11:32 PM

Indeed, it makes me sick when I see people supporting Putin while screaming about rights, freedom and democracy.


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Posted 05 December 2023 - 11:14 AM

Also the traitors in Congress that seem desperate to defund Ukrainian resistance.

Largely, the same crowd that support Trump's sedition and failed attempt at insurrection.

Putin's Patriots.

 

Ukraine’s US lifeline is hanging by a thinning thread

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/05/politics/us-ukraine-aid-congress-analysis/index.html



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Posted 05 December 2023 - 06:31 PM

I have said it before, I will say it again.

 

This is MAGA'S payback because of that perfect call and the fact the Ukraine wouldn't play ball with Trump when it came to digging up dirt on Biden ( which would have constituted election interference by a foreign power).


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Posted 23 January 2024 - 06:34 PM

Ukrainian film '20 Days in Mariupol' receives Oscar nomination in Best Documentary category

 

 

https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-film-20-days-in-mariupol-receives-oscar-nomination-in-best-documentary-feature-film-category/

 

 

If you have not watched this film yet, I recommend it.

 

However, I do warn you, it has very graphic video of Russian war crimes.

 

PBS Link:  https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/20-days-in-mariupol/

 

 

Cheers!

 

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Posted 23 January 2024 - 07:10 PM

We have greater things in the United States to worry about then getting into another useless war like Vietnam and the Middle East.

Homelessness, Veterans, southern border security, failing infrastructure, mental health.

Screw Ukraine.

Oh and dealing with corruption in Ukraine was perfectly legal under an agreement signed by President Clinton and Ukraine in 1999 read it and weap https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/106th-congress/16/document-text law and order supporting fakers and traitors. Under that Treaty Trump was legally within his right to seek out the level of corruption in dealing with criminal matters between then Vice President Biden and Hunter Bidens appointment to Burisma and the dismissal of the lawyer looking into it. Facts matter nevertrumpering warmongers

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Posted 23 January 2024 - 08:03 PM

We have greater things in the United States to worry about...

And they are linked to the problems in Europe.

 

There are American citizens trying to overthrow our government and are largely backed by the same source invading Ukraine.

Russia.

 

Your own support of Putin is suspicious. You even work as a civilian in a government military installation. Troublesome.

And your invite of foreign troops.....well, that says a lot.

 

Oh and dealing with corruption in Ukraine was perfectly legal under an agreement signed by President Clinton and Ukraine in 1999 

Indeed. Putin's sweetheart warm water port deals were negated. His plans for expansion into Europe held up making it important to control our elections and achieve an easy military solution.Just walk right in with little resistance..

With Trump, his puppet, Putin would have had easy entrance into Ukraine, but Covid and a lost election delayed a response.

With Trump out, his cheap shot was lost and swift overwhelming military action became the means.

 

Currently....fascism has become acceptable in the US with Trump and like minded support a potential force in our 2024 election

 

Our greatest internal threats are......the puppets of Putin. At Home.

 

As you once posted , Dan.....Freedom isn't free.

( obviously you don't believe it,,,,, you'd sell us out for a dictatorship )



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Posted 23 January 2024 - 08:12 PM

Johnny you are delusional and heavily indoctrinated off your meds again?

Yeah freedom is the free let the Ukrainians fight their own war if they want a sovereign nation and show their proudful of their nation that's their responsibility not ours.

Our governments responsibility is to our own sovereignty despite the southern border invasion by the tens of thousands of illegal immigrants of military aged and able bodied civilians that could fight for and die for a better life in their own nations for which they cowardly run from showing their wives abd kids just how weak their husband's and military aged sons and daughters are. How truly pathetic.

Fascism is an ideology not owned by either right or left. Fascism is what's happening now. And you're to far brainwashed to see that.

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Posted 23 January 2024 - 08:22 PM

Your own support of Putin is suspicious. You even work as a civilian in a government military installation. Troublesome.

Indeed, Security risk.

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Posted 23 January 2024 - 08:41 PM

Johnny you are delusional and heavily indoctrinated off your meds again?

Interesting  LOL!

Coming from a BC member that at the age of 13 experimented with an illegal drug....approved by his parents.

:grinner:

 

Yeah freedom is the free..

There you go again...lol!

 

let the Ukrainians fight their own war

They are. There are no active US or European military forces on Ukrainian soil.

You are an instrument of their defeat.

 

Fascism is an ideology not owned by either right or left.

Nope. It's a trait of the extreme right. Always has been.

No matter how many times you make that false claim, it's still incorrect.

 

Fascism is what's happening now. And you're to far brainwashed to see that.

You're like a grade schooler....'I'm not, you are' 'No you are, I'm not'  lol!

 

Dan, you are a supporter of far right authoritarian rule. A Trumper.

 

Our governments responsibility is to our own sovereignty...

A big responsibility.

The defense of our sovereignty.

Right there. You fail. Sure, you want to wage war on illegal immigration, but actually defend our security?

No.

You are very open in defending Russian expansion and that expansion does threaten our national security.

 

You even support criminality in the highest office of our government.


Edited by JohnnyBeeGood, 23 January 2024 - 08:43 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2024 - 09:43 PM

let the Ukrainians fight their own war

You do realize that after the Soviet Union broke up they left so many nukes behind that Ukraine was a nuclear super power


Ukraine inherited about 130 UR-100N intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM) with six warheads each, 46 RT-23 Molodets ICBMs with ten warheads apiece, as well as 33 heavy bombers, totaling approximately 1,700 nuclear warheads on Ukrainian territory.

And they gave it all up in the interest of non proliferation in exchange for signed guarantees that should Russia invade we the west would defend their borders.

If Ukraine had kept those nukes Russia would never had invaded and if it did there would be a number of radioactive smoking holes in the ground.

Edited by NickAu, 23 January 2024 - 09:46 PM.

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Posted 26 January 2024 - 06:38 PM

Alas it is sad as they haven't those nukes anymore as a deterrent against Russia. Russia plays this sort of game very well.


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Posted 26 January 2024 - 07:18 PM

I an going to agree with Dan on something here.


Dan says that if the Ukrainians were not such cowards they would never have given up the nukes and Dan is right, when US officials started insisting on Ukraine giving up those nukes the Ukranian military should have arrested ALL US personnel on its soil and imprisoned them for life, then they should have popped a few nukes over US and Russian cities as a " dont mess with us" warning, sure it would have triggered a nuclear exchange between super powers but at least nobody would mess with them.


Our governments responsibility is to our own sovereignty

Taking those nukes from Ukraine protected America and its citizens from being nuked.

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Posted 19 February 2024 - 10:16 AM

FRONTLINE and AP Documentary 20 DAYS IN MARIUPOL Wins “Best Documentary” at 2024 EE BAFTA Film Awards

 

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/frontline-and-ap-documentary-20-days-in-mariupol-wins-best-documentary-at-2024-ee-bafta-film-awards/

 

Next up, is the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences Oscar awards.

 

If you have not seen this film, then you are missing a piece of history.

 

If you still believe that a negotiated peace can be made with Russia, then you should watch this film.

 

If you believe that Russian is justified in what it claims about Ukraine, then you live in a fantasy world, out of touch with reality.

 

This film is composed of actual footage, taken by the Associated Press, in an active war zone, in Ukraine.

 

It mainly focuses on what the Russians were doing to the Civilian population.

 

To watch the film,  use one of the following links.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvAyykRvPBo

 

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/20-days-in-mariupol/

 

 

Cheers!

 

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