Building a new PC

Corsair RM750 White 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular Power Supply (CP-9020231-IN)

Basically I need to go for DDR5 RAM and based on the names I gave earlier do you guys say they are okay and if not please suggest one.

 

Corsair and G-Skill are both good brands but you can`t choose any RAM until you have decided on a MB, see my canned info for as to why;

Something to keep in mind, a CPU must be compatible with a MB whereas the RAM has to be compatible with both the CPU and the MB, this because a MB can be compatible with faster CPUs than the one in your list of parts and MB manufacturers often state RAM speeds that far exceed that which any compatible CPU can handle, this is misleading at the least or dishonest at worst.

 

Corsair RM750 White 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular Power Supply (CP-9020231-IN)

 

Basically I need to go for DDR5 RAM and based on the names I gave earlier do you guys say they are okay and if not please suggest one.

 

 

Corsair and G-Skill are both good brands but you can`t choose any RAM until you have decided on a MB, see my canned info for as to why;

 

Something to keep in mind, a CPU must be compatible with a MB whereas the RAM has to be compatible with both the CPU and the MB, this because a MB can be compatible with faster CPUs than the one in your list of parts and MB manufacturers often state RAM speeds that far exceed that which any compatible CPU can handle, this is misleading at the least or dishonest at worst.

 

For the best and most stable performance you should where possible purchase a CPU and RAM that have been tested and approved by the motherboard manufacturer, this is referred to as the QVL ( qualified vendors list ) understand though that there are too many products released for them all to be tested so other hardware will be compatible but not proven to be by the manufacturer of the motherboard.

 

 

RAM: I am going for intel 14700K. Therefore regarding RAM as I am going for DDR5, it has a min speed of 6000 mhz. 

 

 

That information is so far off the mark, can I ask from where you got those figures, 

 

 

You never answered the above.

 

 

 

 

You said "That information is so far off the mark, can I ask from where you got those figures, "

See the link: https://www.pcstudio.in/product/gskill-flare-x5-32gb-16gbx2-ddr5-6000mhz-desktop-ram/

It says  Tested Speed (XMP/EXPO)      6000 MT/s &  SPD Speed (Default)  4800 MT/s

1) Don't you think I should go for a 850 Watt PSU rather than a 750 one. I maybe using a 4070 super graphics card.

2) I may go for Gigabyte Z790 Ud Ac (wi-fi) Lga1700 Atx mother board. So the GSkill RAM I have listed should be okay? Your thoughts.

As for air cooler it was suggested by Intel to use Noctua. Go with it.

But there be possible RAM card clearance issues so that means to buy low profile RAM not the higher cards or with RGB on the cards (any RGB will be hidden under the cooler and won't be seen anyways).

 

This is from Noctua regarding the cooler: https://ncc.noctua.at/cpus/model/INTEL-Core-i7-14700K-1760 for an Intel Core i7-14700K.

Personally I would go with something like the NHD-15 (cooler height is 165mm with fans and will have to use low profile RAM (max 32mm height)), but have a look at the links  listed in the page and go over these yourself.

Thanks a ton buddy.

I will go for Noctua cooler as you have suggested. However the NH D15 model is pricey ($125) here. Cant spend so much for just a cooler. I may choose for a lower priced model but with decent rating.

Am thinking of finalizing Gigabyte Z790 Ud Ac (wi-fi) Lga1700 Atx as my MB. I hope its okay for my build.

"2x PCIe 8-pin cables (adapter in box) OR 300 W or greater PCIe Gen 5 cable.
Certain manufacturer models may use 1x PCIe 8-pin cable."

"Required System Power (W) .....     650  ..."

Quoted from and please look at "View Full Specs" here from Nvidia: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/40-series/rtx-4070-family/

So yes a 750 watt PSU is adequate.

Although AIB partner cards may use higher wattage, I seriously doubt it would no higher than 700 watts total system power.

RAM manufacturers do not dictate what speed of RAM a CPU can handle, AMD or Intel do and in this instance your choice of CPU can`t handle anything faster that 5600MT/s as is shown at the Intel link that was provided.

Gigabyte specs here state Recommended PSU 700W no harm in having the Corsair 850W PSU but be aware that it only has a seven year warranty as opposed to the non e versions of the PSU.

Can I ask that you do not quote every reply as we have to read the full post to make sure nothing gets missed,, thanks.

"I will go for Noctua cooler as you have suggested. However the NH D15 model is pricey ($125) here. Cant spend so much for just a cooler. I may choose for a lower priced model but with decent rating."

Maybe so, but it will last you for the next couple of decades. Plus it is very quiet (some coolers are irritatingly loud) and very effective (one of the best for Intel).

Always keep the sales receipt for the cooler as proof of purcahse, as anytime in the future when you upgrade to a newer CPU socket, just contact Noctua and ask for a free mounting kit for the new socket and they will send it to you.

They do respect their customers and stand behind  the products.

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/Assassin-IV-Premium-CPU-Air-Cooler-1700-AM5/2023/17129.shtml

is capable for the Intel's TDP maximum Turbo TDP of 253 watts as this does a max of 280 watts.

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2021/13067.shtml

is capable of a max TDP of 260 watts, just making it for the Intel's power draw.

maybe https://www.thermalright.com/product/peerless-assassin-120/

As PhilPower2 has said, please stop using the full quoting for the previous posts in replies.

The forum's Mods frown upon this practice.

@PhilPower2 & @0lds0d ... I will not full quote anymore.

@0lds0d

You have already suggested Noctua cooler so any reason for suggesting Deepcool. In case of deepcool > Assassin iV costs similar to NH D15 model (Noctua). However DeepCool AK620 is cheaper.

Just for my understanding

> I will go for a 750 Watt PSU. However if I went for a 850 Watt one then does it mean my electricity bill will be higher as it will suck in more power (even if system is not using that much).

@PhilPower2

I use this site to create custom build: https://www.pcstudio.in/pc-build/

Should I share one full build.?

Regarding PSU, since I wish to change my PC build completely once every 5-7 years I think if there is a 7 year warranty on a PSU then it should be good enough (I think).

Edited by greatchap, 26 March 2024 - 10:50 PM.

Just to show other options. Nice to have other examples.

No the utility bill won't go higher.

You could use a 1600 watt PSU and there won't be any increase in the power bill. (although it would be running less efficient for this system but that is going off on a tangent)

PSU and the system will 'draw' only the needed power that it requires at that moment.

An example - a simple light bulb rated at 30 watts will only draw 30 watts and will  never draw anything above the 30.

So if the system is idling it will 'draw' only  the power it needs, and if gaming for example, then the system will 'draw' more power for the increased load.

A 750 watt PSU will 'draw up to' 750 watts and what it draws will always vary according to the system's power demands.

A 850 watt PSU will 'draw up to' 850 watts and what it draws will always vary according to the system's power demands.

The CPU for example when idling or doing very little, may 'draw' only 20 watts and when under a heavy load the CPU may draw up to 253 watts (it's 'Maximum Turbo Power' draw). It will always vary.

The PSU is correctly supplying the required power at those moments for the entire system.



 

Edited by 0lds0d, 27 March 2024 - 04:28 AM.

"Should I share one full build.?"

Please do.
 

"Regarding PSU, since I wish to change my PC build completely once every 5-7 years I think if there is a 7 year warranty on a PSU then it should be good enough (I think)."

PhilPower2 will reply. Because I could be wrong.

But if buying a 10 year warranty PSU and building every five years, then the PSU could be used in two builds (present and future). In which case a 10 year warranty 850 watt PSU maybe better choice, because if the second build will have a higher power demand then the 850 watt PSU will  be better suited for the next build

Plus the PSU won't expire the day after it is out of the warranty period, it will last longer, as long as it wasn't abused by running full out all the time to it's limit or had to endure excessive heat. 

The length of the warranty period is a guide for the lifespan and it's quality as better internal parts will be used in 10 year warranty PSU as opposed lower quality parts inside a 5 or 7 year PSU.

 

Edited by 0lds0d, 27 March 2024 - 05:08 AM.

I am finalizing my build but I need help in 1 or 2 areas:

Here it goes:

-Intel Core i7 14700K 14th Gen Desktop Processor

-Gigabyte Z790 Ud Ac (wi-fi) Lga1700 Atx Motherboard (Z790 UD AC)

-GSkill Flare X5 32Gb (16Gbx2) Ddr5 6000Mhz Desktop Ram (F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5)

-Samsung 990 Pro 2Tb Nvme M.2 Internal Ssd (MZ-V9P2T0BW)

-Deepcool DQ750M-V3L 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular Power Supply Black (R-DQ750M-FB0B-UK)

-Ant Esports Ice-150Tg Mesh Atx Mid Tower Cabinet Black (ICE-150TG)

-Deepcool Ak620 120Mm Cpu Air Cooler (R-AK620-BKNNMT-G)

-Gigabyte Rtx 4070 Super Windforce Oc 12Gb Gaming Graphics Card (GV-N407SWF3OC-12GD)

Questions

1) RAM: Is the RAM okay as in DDR5 for 32 GB (GSkill) there are a lot of options.

2) In SSD I was going for Samsung 990 EVO but it does not have good reviews. Let me know what to choose here or If I chose okay?

3) PSU: Couldnt find the right one. I need ATX 3.0 supporting PCIe 5.0>>> Please advice

4) Deepcool is okay and so is Noctua.

5) RTX 4070 has slightly better reviews than 4070 Super

Let me know if I chose the right components and if any component needs/should be changed.

-GSkill Flare X5 32Gb (16Gbx2) Ddr5 6000Mhz Desktop Ram (F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5)

Not sure how many times you need to be advised but this will be my last time of repeating it.

You can`t use RAM any faster than 5600MT/s with an ii7 14700K.