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Should AI be kept in check?


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#31 JohnnyBeeGood

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Posted 09 August 2023 - 03:29 PM

Johnnythegoodfascisttroll you're just exposing your fascist nature in authoritarian control of civilization and big government involvement.

 

"It's really an issue of keeping all people with criminal intent in check and that's mostly impossible."

Does seem pretty controversial  :grinner:

 

That's all a non-patriot.

Seriously, though, why do you think the Constitution gives Rights to 'things' and how does a 'thing' become a patriot?

 

License plates have been attempted to be regulated

They are in Ohio.

https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/ohio-rejected-759-license-plates-in-2022/

 

They are things and don't have any Constitutional protection.

 

Maryland, too

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/marylands-4900-dirty-words-banned-from-license-plates/65-402587697

Wow, that's where you live!

 

Have you protested their inhumanity? ( :grinner:  )

 

What was that again?

but what you put on it is protected free speech just as if it was a computer monitor where a person inputs what they want and the computer spits it out.

Well, don't you look foolish :grinner:

 

You're truly an embarrassment to free thought and free will loving humans a pure disgrace.

Let me guess, you're off your meds again?

 

 

I know, I know....you try.

But not everyone with learning disabilities gets a prize for their efforts.

 

'Things' do not have Constitutional Rights.....really, Dan



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Posted 09 August 2023 - 03:38 PM

https://apnews.com/article/freedom-of-speech-california-us-news-san-francisco-oakland-ea43f5c5105177293254b8e6cdc13341

And I quote "However, Tigar said the DMV probably could be permitted to deny plates that are, for instance, obscene, profane or contain hate speech because they fall outside of First Amendment protections."

So it would be up to the implementers of anyone that uses openai as a tool for expression.

The government can't regulate chatgpt because it be in violation of free speech see above we already have laws that regulate speech aka clear and present danger doctrine.

That is all that would need to be done.

But what you want is 100% pure unadulterated fascist controll over people's lives.

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Posted 09 August 2023 - 03:51 PM

And I quote "However, Tigar said the DMV probably could be permitted to deny plates that are, for instance, obscene, profane or contain hate speech because they fall outside of First Amendment protections."

 

Well, how does that support your claim ....that you could put anything on a license plate that you could on your monitor?

 

what you put on it is protected free speech just as if it was a computer monitor where a person inputs what they want and the computer spits it out

 

Looks like you are confused as to what the words meant.

 

So it would be up to the implementers of anyone that uses openai as a tool for expression.

What's that got to do with license plates?

Hell, they can't even vote!

:grinner:

 

The government can't regulate chatgpt because it be in violation of free speech....

Human speech, Dan.

'Things' do not have Rights under the Constitution. They aren't citizens.

 

Do you notice a pattern?  :grinner:

 

That is all that would need to be done. 

 

:grinner:  :grinner:  :grinner:  :grinner: 

 

But what you want is 100% pure unadulterated fascist controll over people's lives.

No, Dan.....just you bad guys  :grinner:



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Posted 09 August 2023 - 04:05 PM

Continue embarrassing yourself fascist Johnny. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, mussolini, and others would be so proud you want bigger governments to squander opposition speech. You'd fit perfectly fine in north Korea. No wonder you love Beijing Biden.


Humans input into chatgpt all bright one,that is what you're forgetting Mr Genius. You rrgulate chatgpt you're regulating someone's ability to exercise their freedom of Speech and expression


Just admit you're a fascist and come out of the closet.

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Posted 09 August 2023 - 04:25 PM

Continue embarrassing yourself fascist Johnny. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, mussolini, and others would be so proud you want bigger governments to squander opposition speech. You'd fit perfectly fine in north Korea. No wonder you love Beijing Biden.

 

All because I pointed out that inanimate objects had no Constitutional protections?

That's a bit harsh, don't you think?

 

:grinner:

 

Humans input into chatgpt all bright one,that is what you're forgetting Mr Genius.

No forgetting Dan.

That is the problem and you've added nothing to the conversation other than at one time agreeing with me.



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Posted 09 August 2023 - 04:34 PM

Nope I never agreed to government regulation or additional laws like you want you're simply a fascist masquerading as a liberal and an anti republican nevertrumper. You don't want a better society yiu want to be a baby sitter and build prisons and camps to place those that disagree with your opinion and viewpoints in. All because we appear to be "dangerous" that's fascism. You preach it by wanting bigger government.

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Posted 09 August 2023 - 04:35 PM

I missed this:

 

Just admit you're a fascist and come out of the closet.

Dan, we've been down that road elsewhere.

Nothing's changed.

I support democracy and majority rule.

You support Trumpism, extreme nationalism with an authoritarian ruler, Russia's war in Europe, Putin's funding of Trump in 2016 and the sedition, attempted insurrection and vote fraud by Trump in an attempt to retain power after losing the 2020 election.

 

But none of that has anything to do with the topic of this thread.

 

Inanimate objects do not have Constitutional Rights. It's nothing political.



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Posted 09 August 2023 - 04:51 PM

Nope I never agreed to government regulation or additional laws l

Never said you did,

But you did agree with me here:

 

Now when someone uses AI to generate a business concept and the person goes through with it thst persons interstate commerce can be regulated.

 

About the only sane comment you've made and you agreed with me.

 

Awesome :grinner:

 

you're simply a fascist masquerading as a liberal and an anti republican nevertrumper.

Well....you are correct about me being a never-Trumper  :devil:

 

But it's irrelevant to the topic of this thread. You brought it up.

 

You don't want a better society yiu want to be a baby sitter and build prisons and camps to place those that disagree with your opinion and viewpoints in. 

I feel your pain.... :devil:

 

All because we appear to be "dangerous" that's fascism

No, Dan....it's very obvious you like to be perceived as dangerous.

Your thoughts may be wild, but the real you? No. All talk.

 

You preach it by wanting bigger government.

(sigh!)

Really Dan, inanimate objects do not have Constitutional Rights. I'm serious.



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Posted 09 August 2023 - 04:53 PM

What if, companies, not governments, came up with some sort of ethical algorithm benchmark to keep this technology from doing something criminal?



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Posted 09 August 2023 - 04:54 PM

I think enforcing it is the problem.



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Posted 09 August 2023 - 04:57 PM

Criminal according to whose definition? Criminal laws are derived from governments.

For instance, I'm writing a book I decide to use AI to write a scene of a gruesome act horror and violence, should my work be censored because someone like JohnnyTheFascistTroll above finds it offensive to human nature? After all it us just a scene in a book a piece of art and fiction and an expression of my creativity in a horror movie?

You see where I am going with this?

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My quote about someone using chatgpt to get rich doesn't mean that chatgpt is participating in e-commerce. You're ignorant if you think that.

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Posted 09 August 2023 - 05:07 PM

Criminal according to whose definition? Criminal laws are derived from governments.

You just answered your own question.

 

For instance, I'm writing a book I decide to use AI to write a scene of a gruesome act horror and violence, should my work be censored because someone like JohnnyTheFascistTroll above finds it offensive to human nature?

I doubt anyone would care, Dan.

The flow would suck because the AI would naturally be more logical  even on your best and it's worst day.

 

After all it us just a scene in a book a piece of art and fiction and an expression of my creativity in a horror movie?

Well, if you wrote it all I might buy it as a joke to pass around with my friends.

Your creativity outside the computer forums is rather hilarious.



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Posted 09 August 2023 - 05:17 PM

And governments are made up of fascists like you johnnythegoodfascisttroll people who hate free thought and freedoms in general. You would instantly ban my chatgpt account and refer me to the fbi fir having a "gruesome murder scene" in my book because you find that offensive and criminal cause it doesn't suit your fancy or suit your antiamerican values and agenda.

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Posted 09 August 2023 - 05:30 PM

And governments are made up of fascists like you johnnythegoodfascisttroll people who hate free thought and freedoms in general.

Free thought isn't what you think it is or you wouldn't be demanding it's not fair that inanimate objects don't have Constitutional Rights :nono:

 

:devil:

 

 

You would instantly ban my chatgpt account

Well....there is that issue where you argued to kill all of humanity to save the planet.

:grinner:

 

refer me to the fbi fir having a "gruesome murder scene" in my book

Seriously? I might caution your wife, son and your neighbors as I red flagged you with the ATF.

A civic duty.


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Posted 09 August 2023 - 05:32 PM

Free thought

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#:~:text=Freethought%20(sometimes%20spelled%20free%20thought,%2C%20reason%2C%20and%20empirical%20observation.

You want authority to determine how we think. I don't you are a fascist just admit it.

Humans are a virus we over consume and move to another area to procreate and continue to kill the host. You just can't come to terms with thst concept because it eludes your infantile intellect.

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